Aside from playing with Giuffria, DIO, Rough Cutt and others, guitarist, Craig Goldy is also a music executive, author and a mentor for musicians who want to be in the music business. He is now back with a new band: Resurrection Kings. Craig Newman sat down to speak with him about the new band and other projects he is working on.
Hard Attack: Hi Craig, Great new album you guys have here. Where have you been hiding?
Craig Goldy: (Laughs). That’s great and thanks for saying that. Well quite honestly, when we lost Ronnie, we lost a lot. It just took the wind out of my sails and I really had no desire to work with another singer or band project. The only thing I was doing was working with DIO Disciples and even then we were getting flack because people thought we were cashing in on Ronnie’s passing. And I understand it because he was so revered and just so loved throughout the world. And if we did nothing that man will always be remembered. I don’t think people understood that DIO was run like a family. He was family to us and Ronnie and I were friends above all else. We had a special relationship and he went out of his way for me and did so many great things that had nothing to do with music. For just being a good friend and a good man and you just can’t sit by and do nothing. And that‘s exactly what happens during a DIO Disciples concert; it’s really like a memorial service where the band and the audience connect and seeing the audience singing to the sky with tears dripping down their faces singing to him in heaven because they miss him so much. And that is what that thing is for because we love him and miss him so much. So I think now people understand a little bit more what that band was all about. We are actually putting together new material this year.
HA: So new material for DIO Disciples?
CG: Yep. It took me a long time for me to do anything outside of that. So I wrote two songs for my personal tribute to Ronnie. And the singer who sang on those two songs was just outstanding and that breathed life into me to write original material again. And Chas West who had been in this band called Hollywood All Stars – Jason Bonham’s band, a short stint with Foreigner , Lynch Mob and Jake E. Lee’s Red Dragon Cartel. So when I was asked to do these concerts to fill in for Carlos Cavazo for the Hollywood All Stars, I was listening to the DVD to learn their set. And I was hearing this guy Chas singing all the songs and hitting all the notes the original guys can’t do anymore. This guy is really good. So we did five to seven concerts together and he was just nailing it every night. And we became friends and wrote a couple of songs together and thought maybe we can do something at some point. And that is where that song “Livin’ Out Loud” came from. And I saw him and Sean McNabb perform one night and they asked me to sit in and I did. And something sparked there too and man we should put a band together someday, you know. And lo and behold he we are.
HA: How did Sean got involved since he’s working with other bands. Were there any other bass players you thought of aside from him?
CG: It all started when I got an email from Frontiers Records asking if I’d be interested in being the guitar player for a recording project with other people who made a name for themselves in the eighties. One of the guys they were thinking of sang and played bass, and when he fell through the first two guys I thought of were Chas and Sean because they were asking if I had any songs I’d would like to submit to the project. So I had submitted “Livin’ Out Loud” already and they loved the song. And loved it so much they were going to call the band and the album “Livin’ Out Loud”. So it made perfect sense. Then when the drummer fell through, Vinnie Appice and I had stayed friends since the DIO days. He and I were doing a recording session together at the time, so I asked Vinnie if he had heard some of the songs and would be interested in doing it. And he said yeah and it just snowballed from there. When I heard the bass and drums to these songs and I now had to put my guitar parts to them, I said ‘wow I really have to step up my game here.’
Luckily for me, Frontiers and the producer, Alessandro Del Vecchio were like ‘go for it’ and really encouraged me to stretch my wings on some of the songs written by other people and Alessandro. I asked Alessandro if I could change them a little bit. And they called it “Goldy-ize” and so we Goldy-ized the songs and I stretched my wings and did stuff I haven’t done for a while. And it was really inspirational and kind of fun to do stuff that people never heard me do before.
HA: These eleven songs were written while working on this album and from previous projects?
CG: “Livin’ Out Loud” was written prior to this and the other songs were written for this project. Like “Fallin’ for You” I wrote with Alessandro. “Silent Wonder” we wrote together and added new parts for “Wash Away” and “Had Enough.” And the rest of the songs on the album Alessandro wrote by himself or co-wrote with other guys. All the songs were being submitted to the guys at Frontiers and they would decide which songs will make it on the record.
HA: The songs are strong and have that 70’s or 80’s feel to it. Are there talks about doing live shows?
CG: Oh definitely! We were all so impressed how the album turned out we’re currently in negations with managers and agents to try to put a tour together in support of this record. And we all would like to do another record together.
HA: When the live shows get finalized, will there be a mix of songs from this album and DIO songs?
CG: We’ll most likely do some stuff from our catalog yeah. There are some, for instance the ballad, (“Never Say Goodbye”) we would do live. It’s like a phantom, where Alessandro wrote that song and is like a fifth member of the band. Like the first DIO record where there was a keyboard player but he wasn’t visible. So when we come out we want to play the songs that don’t really rely on keyboards. The catalogue songs will most likely be a bit of a surprise. Not the typical ‘oh here they go again with that song’ stuff. It will be something we decide to do unexpectedly.
HA: You have been doing other music industry projects as helping other bands
CG: Yes, I believe it is too difficult for musicians to get plugged in. The internet has changed things drastically. Record companies are not obsolete and thank God for that. Frontiers and a lot of other labels are alive and well. And going it alone on the internet is not the cure all either. But, the process to put music together that will punch people in their soul to the extent that they just have to have it; that process is the same and always will be until the day we become Cyborgs. What I am trying to do through my experiences is to try to pass that on to other people.
HA: Even the radio formats have changed so much that play what the label reps are pushing to get played. The music directors or program directors have to answer to consultants, instead of playing what they want to.
CG: Not to point any fingers specifically at anybody. That’s in my book (Destiny Bridge) – why things are the way they are and how things got how they became and what we can do about it. The book is not just stories about me but the music industry. What things go on behind closed doors, how to create strategies for success and how to write material that will make you actually stand out from the rest of the crowd because of all the stuff that goes on behind closed doors, if you don’t know what is happening behind those closed doors, chances are you will be on the outside looking in. When people bypass the record company to market themselves on the internet they fail to realize that they themselves become the record company. And if they don’t know what the record companies know – how to properly market yourself – then you will just get huge on your Facebook page and that’s about it.
HA: Who came up with the name for the band?
CG: Actually Sean was in a band with that name. And nobody in this band wanted it be call “Livin’ Out Loud”. So the people at Frontiers, God bless them, said to give them suggestions. And Sean had suggested Resurrection Kings and we thought ‘cool, perfect.’ I like band names that actually mean something. There is a special meaning behind it and is cool sounding name.
HA: I saw a poster for a UK festival (Rockingham) and Giuffria was on it. How did that come together?
CG: This past October was me, Alan Krigger and David Glen Eisley put together an original member Giuffria reunion in Nottingham called at a festival called Rockingham. A local promoter out here asked me to put a past, present and future concert together so I got guys from the local bands I played in here when I grew up at San Diego, guys from DIO Disciples, Black Knights Rising, David Glen Eisley and Alan Krigger to do a Giuffria set. And so one of the guys flew from London to see that specifically and watch us for the Giuffria set and booked us for the Rockingham concert. And now Frontiers would like me and Dave to put together a Giuffria-esque album. So that will be exciting. And I am glad to be back alive! There are a lot of projects coming up; new songs with DIO Disciples, my own band Black Knights Rising, Resurrection Kings. There is a lot going on and I’m grateful that the world still cares about what the heck Craig is doing. It is beautiful that people are behind it. ‘Hey, we’re there with you man whatever you’re going to do’ and it all started with those two songs for my personal tribute to Ronnie.